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Christopher Wright – “I don’t know—what great scholar wrote a book breakng the good/evil concept down because if we can’t finalize these concepts— how the heck do we xpect to teach ppl about Jesus—if we don’t know Jesus ourselves. Sin and not sinning seem to be important concepts related to His ministry.”
The question is: What is “sin”?
The answer is simple: Not knowing that we are One in God. It is the trance of relativity.
Jesus was not asking you to memorize a list of good and bad deeds.
He was showing you the way not to sin. i.e. knowing God as yourself. (and I don’t mean, pretending it were so.)
AtalantaBethulia – “I learned the mean and angry God from mean and angry people. I believed in that God too until I had children of my own and decided that those people were wrong.”
Proof that love is both catalyst and result.
Your children are blessed.
May their path be straight and true.
amynrob – ” I mean, SO much of what Jesus says has to do with the ‘Kingdom of Heaven’ (and how to get there.) How do you interpret or account forthose many passages? “
The “Kingdom of Heaven” is not in the future. So the way of talking about it in the “future tense”, is just a way of talking about it.
We are closer these days, (via 21st century contemplation), of getting, (as a species), the paradox of time.
There is only Now.
Ford1968 – “brmckay, I agree completely. We are called to be agents of reconciliation, creating the kingdom ‘on earth as it is in heaven’. That’s the task that’s set before me individually and us the Church.”
That’s interesting. I find that I want to adjust the word “creating”, to something more like “being”. Or perhaps “removing obstacles, so that the fullness of nature can take it’s course”. (Yoga Sutra’s 4-3)
But it should not be a sticking point. Creativity is much more like an act of discovery than the word often seems to imply.
Al Cruise responding to a blog post by John Shore – “Two thumbs up. Theologies that try to go beyond this are just guessing.”
There is “Theology” and there is “Realization”.
Death doesn’t have much to do with it.
Once one realizes that death is not real.
Alliecat04 responding to a comment by John Robbins – “Just to be clear, are you saying that you believe the application of any part of this to modern gentile existence is simply a mistake?”
John Robbins – “Yes. I believe, in their efforts to make sense of Jewish phrases and theology found in the gospels and in Paul’s writings, the early Gentile believers sort of ‘filled in the blanks’ with their own understanding and theology.”
If SOME (Gentile) peoples have misunderstood or (inaccurately) reinterpreted, “Jewish phrases and theology”, OTHERS have accurately seen the universal theme playing out.
This would be a good time to ask. What is being saved by saving, “the Jewish People” as such?
There is a constant source of Wisdom. This, arising from the utter singularity of God.
Species and peoples, of all times and places, dwell in it. Though attention is often, but not always, constricted to the personal.
Jerry Lynch – “Some conjecture as to what is really being revealed through the Bible. Christ is the common ground of every soul, the spirit of humanity; it is the true and unique potential, identity, and purpose God created in each individual. Jesus fully realized this essential self and spoke from this Profound I. Love as demonstrated and noted in scripture is the truest path to the realization of this essential self. No one comes to the father except through this essential self. What Jesus did, in effect, was to become fully human.”
I hope people are hearing what you say.
“The essential self”.
Isherwood Williams responding to comment by Bill Payne – “Hell is in most translations, so Norse mythology did get into the Bible. I’m not sure how you can deny something like that.
Hell or Hades, it doesn’t really matter much. One is Norse mythology, the other Greek mythology regarding Zeus’ brother Hades.
If you noticed, we now know the world is round. There is no flat earth, and there is no underworld realm of Hades or Hell below our feet.”
If you instinctively steer clear of primitive tropes, all the better for you.
But why fixate on such a meagre revelation?
Michelle Par responding to a blog post by John Shore – “It’s never about anything but fear, anger, pig-headedness, and the greed for power. …and the desire to be ‘right,’ a feeling of being better than others, and getting to sit in judgement on other people.”
Tribalism. Which in the end is antithetical to Christ. Ironic but true.
The need for a scapegoat to coalesce community.
paganheart responding to a comment by Guy Norred – “I don’t look at it as being stupid, I look at it as ‘know thine enemy,’ so to speak. Though I sometimes wonder if I harbor a bit of a masochistic streak when I look at some of those boards. Sometimes, perhaps, it is also a bit like the human tendency to slow down and rubberneck at a car wreck….it’s horrible, but you just can’t look away….”
Major car wreck that.
Y. A. Warren – “…and exemplify it in our own lives. This, not religion or being homo sapiens, is what makes us fully human.”
This statement represents the missing link. The point where both, the adamantly disenchanted and their foes, the dutifully enamoured, have fallen short.
Trying to invent God; in the form of Jesus or otherwise, without first getting the tiny grasping mind, loaded to the hilt with personal need, out of the way first, is folly.
Emphasis on “tiny grasping mind”.
I’m going to take the liberty of quoting a favourite fellow “quality troll”, Jerry Lynch. By this I hope to reinforce your point past the habitual shouting down.
“Some conjecture as to what is really being revealed through the Bible. Christ is the common ground of every soul, the spirit of humanity; it is the true and unique potential, identity, and purpose God created in each individual. Jesus fully realized this essential self and spoke from this Profound I. Love as demonstrated and noted in scripture is the truest path to the realization of this essential self. No one comes to the father except through this essential self. What Jesus did, in effect, was to become fully human.”
Emphasis on “essential self”!