The Winding Path – 014

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07-11-13, 11:21 AM

Johnthefirebatiser – “Do they also know that Jesus was also fabricated as Krishna of the Hindus? In some cults, Jesus was actually the brother of Satan and in another religion, he wasn’t really crucified, and in another he married Mary Magdalene, and also another as Horus. There’s so many out there. It’s not even Christ that they fabricated, even Noah, describing him as a supernatural being whose eyes shone like the sun. lol! “

All the stories and myths are just what people do. It helps focus our attention in a world of changing forms. This land of evolution.

I say, enjoy the poems and songs, take inspiration from the sayings and koans. This is communion with those who have gone before us. But don’t wander in circles. Don’t stop short of the mountain top.

07-11-13, 10:48 AM

vbm62 – “I can not see how it can be shown that spiritual beings can die, it can be stated but hardly can be shown so. Certainly physical experience of death can not relate to death in spiritual world.”

If there is any shadow, any otherness; a being (spiritual or otherwise), is subject to change. It will die. This though, is the realm of maya, samsara, the relative, not “ultimately” real.

The undying is God, the absolute, singularity. Infinite undivided. No shadow cast. Nirvana. Christ. The Real.

07-11-13, 10:10 AM

radvermin – “In an interesting sense, salvation comes through only one person. Jesus says (as quoted on pg 128) ‘Everyone who lives and believes in me will never die.’ (John 11:26) and Buddha says on the next page ‘Those who have sufficient faith in me, sufficient love for me, are all headed for heaven or beyond.’ (Majjhima Nikaya 22:47) Unless we are saying that Jesus is Buddha (which the OP is clearly not saying) then Buddha is an antichrist (anti meaning in the place of).”

When Jesus makes reference to “me”, Is he referring to the carpenter or to Christ?

Is Christ proprietary, or available to all who seek?

07-11-13, 09:40 AM

Repentant – “Religions are things of man, worldly things, fleshy things, things that “count for nothing” as Jesus once said. But Jesus was neither a follower of a “religion” NOR the originator of one. Jesus was/is ‘the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.’
John 14:6.”

If Christ is “the Way, the Truth, and the Life”, always was, always will be, Eternal, why do you call it Jesus?

07-10-13, 03:17 PM

Jampa – “No one said he wasn’t a Jew; what is being said is that scholars have made a good case that Jesus is a Jew who was either a Buddhist or at least influenced by Buddhist thinking.”

Ok, I have not read the books yet, but I do have a thought to share.

Samaahdi, Enlightenment, Moksha, Dhyaana etc. Have always been potential in us.

The behaviour and ethic that arises from “awakening” will always emphasize harmlessness, charity, compassion, selflessness, love, assimilation into the infinite undivided Life.

Jesus was a Jew.

Buddha was from India.

Cultural, religious, historical and psychological differences would color the descriptions of path and practices involved.

The communities, churches and theologies evolving from the “masters” teachings would be influenced by time and place as well.

But again. The potential is always with us. The present moment is the eternal. For Jesus of Nazareth or for Siddhaartha Gautama, for you or for me.

07-09-13, 04:38 PM

rossum,

Is the Buddha’s enlightenment relative or absolute?

If absolute, then your signature line, “The ultimate truth is that there is no ultimate truth.” is sort of distracting.

At moments like this, I like to emphasize intuition. At least enough, to bring it into balance with reason.

07-09-13, 04:07 PM

JC33 – “Buddha can be a ‘god’ to you if you deify him.”

A fate often inflicted on Jesus.

As I am wont to say lately. If a shadow is cast, it is not God.

07-09-13, 01:56 PM

Dreidel – “Truth is universal and objective, not relative and subjective.”

I would not argue with this. However, the rest of your “Christianity” rhetoric builds a wall around the Truth. Obscuring assimilation with it.

Truth, as objective and universal, is the Entirety that is God. To know it, means releasing the subjectivity of “being Christian”.

Take a moment to listen and learn from Jampa and rossum. Then go forth as a better Christian. More Christ like day by day.

We’re all in this together.

07-09-13, 01:28 PM

George – “Most ‘errors’ as you claim are usually on the part of the critic.”

Jampa – “Well, let’s take the death of Jesus and some questions one biblical scholar has raised. ‘What day did Jesus die on and what time of day? Did he die on the day before the Passover meal was eaten, as John explicitly says, or did he die after it was eaten, as Mark explicitly says? Did he die at noon, as in John, or at 9 a.m., as in Mark? Did Jesus carry his cross the entire way himself or did Simon of Cyrene carry his cross? It depends which Gospel you read. Did both robbers mock Jesus on the cross or did only one of them mock him and the other come to his defense? It depends which Gospel you read. Did the curtain in the temple rip in half before Jesus died or after he died? It depends which Gospel you read . . .’ “

And of course there is the Nag Hammadi Library with it’s inconvenient Gnostic flavoring.

Such like, “carefully” filtered out.

07-09-13, 12:33 PM

AmishGiant – “I am finally taking Kriya Yoga lessons I have no timeline as to when to complete this, we will see. Kriya Yoga is a most deeply spiritual and enlightening form of Yoga and I have seen that those who practice it seem to have achieved a deeper sense of love and peace.”

spokenword – “I can tell you that it is not the peace of Jesus Christ.”

And who are you again? Are you saying that you know the heart of AmishGiant?

Peace is peace.

Life only seems like a game of checkers.

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